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  •  Bullshit. (none / 0)

    No little kids are allowed to play on $15,000 typewriters. No little tobacco/candy wholesaler that  had to net less than a million a year is going to needlessly fill their office with $15,000 typewriters for every employee for memos and letter writing.

    That's ridiculous.

    ...and get rid of these gawd damn voting machines. Blackboxvoting.org

    by nyetsoup4you on Fri Sep 10, 2004 at 07:51:29 AM PDT

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    •  Also... (none / 0)

      My mom was a bookkeeper. In 1973, all the books were done by hand. My mom had no typing whatsoever in her job description, and only used a typewriter for inter-office memos.

      Then why did my mom have an IBM Selectric at her desk in 1973 if they were so rare and outrageouly priced?

      ...and get rid of these gawd damn voting machines. Blackboxvoting.org

      by nyetsoup4you on Fri Sep 10, 2004 at 07:56:03 AM PDT

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      •  kj's diary :IBM Selectric, poor ol' me had one (4.00 / 4)

        kj's diary shows that there was a machine that could produce this font. The IBM Selectric Composer.  In addition he found the fount that closely matches it that was used by these machines. it's a relative of Times New Roman called Bembo.  You have to go to his post and it's in a pdf file . I have already checked a lot of it wuth the CYA Aug. 18,1973 document and it does seem to match. Link to Aug. 18 doc
        http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf

        Link below with some of his material.

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/10/35559/9134

        The IBM Selectric Composer, first marketed in 1966, is capable of producing a scalable memo in the particular font we see.  The memos are available here:

         The manual for that typewriter can be found here:

         The manual for that typewriter can be found here:  http://ibmcomposer.org/docs/Electronic%20Composer%20Operating%20Instructions.pdf.

        The font available for that typewriter that is used in the memo is called "Aldine Roman".  See a replication of it here called Bembo (you have to scroll down a bit): http://graphicdesign.sfcc.spokane.cc.wa.us/tutorials/process/type_basics/type_families.htm.  You'll see that it better matches the font in the Killian memos.  Times Roman in Word has too fine of serifs for what is created in the memos.  The fonts are very similar however.  If you go to page 168 (173 of the pdf), you'll see that Aldine Roman is available in three sizes: 8, 10, and 12.  The superscript is made with the 8-point size element font ball.

        I went to college in the mid to late sixties.  The first year I had a used manual typewriter.  Cost $40. I worked that summer I bought an IBM Selectric.  It cost either a couple hundred dollars but less then three hundred.  I had it for many years.  By 1973 they could easily have been bought new ones for much less or used ones for even less than that.  The military could easily have afforded one.

        Recommend kj's diary; it's a good supplement to this one.  And it seems to be proof that there was such a typewriter.  The papers should have waited and gotten their facts straight before they jumped the gun.  They sure hop to it for Republicans while it took a couple of weeks for them to get data about the Swift Boat Liars

        PS I posted a version of this at kj's. forgive me!

        Debra

        by debcoop on Fri Sep 10, 2004 at 08:09:14 AM PDT

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        •  What about other documents? (4.00 / 2)

          I don't know if someone brought this up already, but:

          If that's the typewriter he used to type up the Bush documents, chances are there are plenty of other documents produced by him, with the same font, and from the same time period, floating around out there. I mean, I'm sure he typed a lot of things for his job and not just these particular docs in question.

          Bernie Sanders for president!

          by SoCalSista on Fri Sep 10, 2004 at 12:53:50 PM PDT

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