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Yes there are legitimate moral grounds, and the that soldier's commander has legitimate legal grounds to execute that soldier on the spot.
It's a volunteer army, it's hard to claim conscientious objector when you signed up. And while you may consider the arguement that the soldier did not know they where signing up to do these deeds (if they did do them) as a valid reason, the army does not and it the army that basically owns that soldier.

by xejn on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 05:08:38 AM PDT

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- More information, please (none / 0)
  
  Does anyone have any links or something about the legal grounds to execute a soldier on the spot for refusing an order? I find it hard to believe that any refusal would be met with summary execution.
  And any information on what has happened to those soldiers who have refused, on moral grounds? There must be some. After all, it's a large army.
  
  -7.13, -8.10
  
  by tzt on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 05:46:31 AM PDT
  
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- Isn't (none / 0)
  
  There protection higher up within the chain of command if an order is later deemed to be illegal? Lower rank soldiers can still be tried for war crimes can't they?
  
  Halley Seven, United States Nil - You see, it can be done!
  
  by ian1973uk on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 05:51:18 AM PDT
  
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- Moral/Lawful (none / 0)
  
  There are no legitimate "moral" grounds recognized by the UCMJ for refusing to obey an order. One is expected to disobey "unlawful" orders. For example, orders which are a clear violation of the Geneva Conventions.
  
  by Iconoclastodon on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 09:09:33 AM PDT
  
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  - The UCMJ really does not say that. (none / 0)
    
    I wish it did, but it does not.
    There is no clause about this.
    
    by xejn on Thu Nov 10, 2005 at 04:16:05 PM PDT
    
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    - Not specifically (none / 0)
      
      However, "just following orders" is no defense for complying with an unlawful order.
      
      by Iconoclastodon on Sat Nov 12, 2005 at 09:40:25 AM PDT
      
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